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In today’s interview with time hacking expert Vikki Louise, we call B.S. on the thought, “I don’t have enough time”. We talk all about how “more time” never creates faster or better results, the #1 thing that gets in the way of optimizing our time and she leaves us with 3 hacks to help us not just be more productive but change our experience of time so that we feel more present and enjoy the time we have.
Topics in this episode:
What “I don’t have enough time” actually means
What it takes to gain back time in your day
Why achieving more is not actually the goal and what it is instead
3 hacks that help you to gain back time
2 common time bandits that keep you from optimizing your time
The first step to taking back control of time
Show Notes:
Register for Vikki’s free Time Investment Sprint where you learn how to INVEST your time so you do less and achieve more: https://course.vikkilouise.com/timeinvesting
Episode 12 Enoughness that explores 3 other “not enough” beliefs that prevent us from having the balanced life we desire.
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Transcript
Intro
I have a special treat for you on the podcast today. An interview with Vikki Louise who is a time hacking coach. She coaches people in how to optimize their time in order to have the life they want. In this episode, we're calling BS on the thought, I don't have enough time. We talk all about how more time never creates faster or better results, the number one thing that gets in the way of optimizing our time, and then she leaves us with three hacks to help us not just be more productive with our time, but change our experience of it so that we feel more present and enjoy the time we have. You ready? Let's get to it.
Welcome to the Ambitious and Balanced Working Mom Podcast, the place for women who want to balance their ambitious career goals with their life as a mom. If you're looking to feel more confident, decisive and productive at both work and home, then this is the place for you. I'm your host, Rebecca Olson. Let's get to it.
Alright, working moms. I'm super excited for today's podcast because I have a guest. This is Vikki, say hello Vikki. Hello, everybody. Super excited. I'm gonna have her introduce her here in a moment. But we're gonna be talking all about time. Vikki is the queen of talking about time. And that's why she is here to talk to us today. So let's just get started with you talking a little bit about yourself, Vikki, and then we'll jump into talking about time and all the things about time.
Time is no longer the excuse.
Yeah, so thanks so much for having me, it’s such a treat to be here. So I call myself a reformed hustler turned time hacker. And really what I mean by that is like, I've always wanted to have it all, I've always wanted to be successful, and a lot of the formula and a lot of what I was taught or what I was reading and consuming when I was younger, told me to have it all you have to do it all. So I really did it all. And I mean, like three jobs at the same time. I mean, working alongside doing some of the most challenging qualifications while relocating countries, like, wherever there is, I definitely did it. And I found myself at that point of I can't do this anymore, and I'm not creating what I want to create. And that's when I really stepped away from the hustle. And was actually able to achieve a lot more. And I did that through some hacks that we'll speak about today. But the basic premise and the big thing that I realized was, oh, time doesn't create my results. And it's never that we don't have time, there's always something underneath that right? We live in a world where we can do so much in such a short amount of time, think about 30 years ago, to go and do a masterclass in front of 100 people, how are we going to do that? How was that going to happen? It was going to take a lot of time. And now it can be done in a day. So time is no longer the excuse. And I think we still use that language. And underneath it are the principles of time hacking, which we can speak about today.
Working moms always feel like they don’t have enough time.
So I just love the idea that you are a reformed hustler turned time hacker. And so one of the things you just said that really, really struck me - I just wrote it down, is that time is no longer the excuse. Because for working moms, time is always the excuse. Always, always, always, there's never enough time. There's never enough time to get through everything you need to get through at work. There's never enough time to spend with your kids. There's never enough time for yourself. We just kind of accept the idea as working moms that we're just not going to have enough time. And that's just going to be it and we have to settle for this idea. And I think that's one of the big reasons why I wanted to talk to you specifically about time, is because it's this very ingrained, you know, philosophy, almost that we live by. And I love the idea, I love what you just said that it's this excuse that we still have, even though it's not really the excuse, right? So, I'm just curious as you've started to uncover some of those things behind the excuse that there's not enough time. What do you normally find?
As working moms, we don’t want to disappoint people around us.
Well, so I bet for a lot of your listeners, there's a lot of trying to not disappoint people. Like we're not willing to disappoint our kids or our colleagues or our partners, then we take on more than literally what we can do. And so the problem isn't that we don't have enough time, we have hours in a day, the problem is we're not willing to disappoint people. So we take on more than is reasonable. And then the problem is we don't have enough time when really it's okay to say no, it's okay to extend deadlines. It's okay to, especially as women, I think we're so conditioned to, say yes, and to give, give, give. And if you are a working mom, that's two very big roles. And then you're conditioning to give, give, give, the person you're not giving to is yourself. So you're constantly pouring from negative. And then the easiest way to explain that is to say you don't have enough time when really, it's 'I didn't want to say no to my kids, I didn't want to say no to the school. I didn't want to say no to my boss’. If we were willing to say no, we wouldn't have this time problem. That's one example. Right?
Yeah, I love that. And that's definitely a big one. So it's just getting it wrong. Like that's another one that comes up all the time, we could call that failure on the big level, right? But it's just, we need to get it right. And we want to avoid all of the icky feelings that come if we get it wrong. And so it's easier to say we don't have enough time and let that be the excuse, maybe why we didn't get it. Right? We didn't get it right. And we failed. It's easier to blame that on not having enough time than to just say like, I personally didn't do it, right?
Embrace failure and rejection.
Yes. And that's literally step three of time hacking is to embrace failure and rejection. And it's literally like, for anyone listening, the quickest way to do something, to figure something out, is to fail at doing it a lot. And when we're avoiding failing, we are avoiding figuring out how to do anything. And we're wasting our time. And what I see my clients do, and probably you too, which is busy work. My client the other day was like, I need to make money. I'm going to go and rewrite my website. I was like, how many people do you think are going to your website? Why don't you write that into social media posts instead? And they’re like, because other people will see me. They'll have thoughts, they'll reject me, I'll fail, then I know, it's really not gonna work. But, isn't it better to know it's not working as soon as possible? It's highly uncomfortable. Which is where another thing I know, you just did an episode on rest. So when we are doing the uncomfortable work, when we are failing more, we have to rest, we have to give ourselves downtime. It's completely unsustainable, which is where I teach about how to optimize your time off, as well as your time on.
Yeah. Oh, gosh, I love that. One of the things that really strikes me, as we just talked about failing is just generally speaking, wanting something other than us to be the excuse. And I'm curious about that, like, we're just not willing to sometimes do the hard work and look at ourselves and say, I can improve. We would rather just say I didn't have enough time, or my boss couldn't give me this or my kids are this way, or whatever. We look to something outside of us as being the reason why we can't accomplish whatever we want to accomplish or get the results that we want to have or have the balance that we want in our life or whatever it is. Versus just saying it's me. It's just me, it's my fault. Like, there's something I'm doing, there's something that needs to change within me, I need to think a little bit differently. I'm curious what your thoughts are on that and why it is that we just can't look inward and take ownership sometimes. Because that seems to be what it's all about.
Owning our mistakes and allowing failure to happen without judgment on ourselves.
Yeah, as I say, I think we live in a society where we do really have these outdated excuses, like things being hard. Like what does hard even mean? Is our work hard? Is it hard to write an email or is that from back in the day when we used to farm the land and things are physically hard? I think a lot of it if we look into it, its roots come from how we've been socialized. But also how we evolved. If we think about how we evolve through tribes if you failed back then it was dangerous for the whole tribe. And that was therefore dangerous for you as an individual. Because if you were seen as potentially harmful to a tribe, you would not stay in that tribe and then you would not survive alone. So we have these two forces at play, that really rewards not taking ownership. And I will say on the flip side, I'd be interested to hear what you see in your clients is sometimes I see this the other way of not taking empowered responsibility, taking the kind of responsibility where we shame ourselves and judge ourselves and go down that hole of, 'it's because everything I do is wrong and I'm a bad person.' Instead of constructive responsibility, which is like okay, this happened. This is what I would do differently. This is what I've learned, this is what I can implement. There's a powerful difference. I do want to make it clear to the listeners that we're not saying, you're responsible and you're wrong. It's more like, guess what, every single person in life, their life is full of mistakes. That's kind of what we do here. That's our thing. We evolve. Right?
For sure. I think that's an interesting way to see the flip side of it, that there are the groupings of people that tend to want to blame everything outside of them, versus taking responsibility, or ownership. And then there's the group of people that take all of the ownership and it's all of their faults, then they just go into the blame, the shame, the beat-up cycle, and they feel awful about themselves - both actually feel really awful. The ‘I don't have any control, and it's out of my hands, and I can't create the life that I want’. Or, I'm not able to, like I'm incapable of, I'm not good enough to do that. And that I can't have the life that I want, right? Both of those feel absolutely terrible. And there's one thing that I love that you talk about a lot, Vikki, which is that we have to expect a human life. If we really stop and we think about what human life is, and as you just said, it's messy, it's really messy. And it's supposed to be messy. We're supposed to not feel great. Half of the time in our life, there's an entire range of emotions that don't feel good. And it's as if whenever we hit that emotion, all of a sudden we go, 'Oh, my gosh, something is wrong. We need to fix this right away. This isn't right'. Like humans don't experience this.
Why you DO want to feel fear in life.
I always say we compare our lowest moments to someone's best three seconds they've shared on social media. And as you say, part of what makes us special is that we are human. Can we love that part of ourselves, instead of wishing ourselves to be robots? No one actually wants to live in a world of robots, we just don't want it. And the second thing for everyone to think about and how I teach it is, our emotions are indicators. That's their job. They're not good or bad, right or wrong, they are literally indicators. For example, fear, we can be like, I don't want to feel fear. But you do want to feel fear, when I'm going to cross a street fear indicates to me to do something and look at both sides of the road.
Yes, I tell that to my 4-year-old a lot when he wants to cross the street, who hasn't developed the fear thing yet, to know that he needs to look both ways. Totally.
That's so interesting that you see that in your 4-year-old, but he has not developed the fear thing yet. So you have to remind them. You want him to have the skill of experiencing fear. And then when it shows up for us, the only problem is our reaction to it, or our disappointment because of it, or what we make it mean that it showed up about us about our success, about our ability to do things instead of it's just an indicator, and then I get to make a decision. No emotion is disempowering is our reaction to those emotions.
Yes. I imagine this comes up a lot when you start working with clients on essentially getting everything they want out of life in less time, right. And so when you go about trying to do that, my guess is one of the main things that just get in the way of you going after that and having more and less time, is a feeling. It's just an emotion that's between where you are now and this kind of other side, where time is no longer the excuse, and you're actually still getting everything done that you want to get done in a much shorter period of time. I'm curious about what that is for you and what you say to your clients.
Choosing to feel empowered with fear.
Yes, and I will say fear is a big one. When we spend our time trying to eliminate fear or get rid of it, we are making things take a lot longer. Versus choosing to feel empowered with fear. And you know, my background with anxiety and panic attacks and so on. And that for me was like one of the biggest aha's in my own story was, okay, I have anxiety, and I can feel in control with anxiety. Instead, anxiety means something's wrong and I need to solve this thing. And I need to get away from the task at hand when, hey, maybe it makes sense that I feel anxious when I'm about to go live and share some ideas in front of people. I'm opening myself up to criticism and judgment and other people's opinions, even though they're probably not thinking about me. You know, can we have compassion that fear should be there. It makes sense that fear is here. And once we stop resisting it, and accepting that of course you are here, then we move so much faster.
Yeah, for sure. I'm thinking about a very classic corporate working mom who has a very full schedule, lots of meetings, is in charge of a team, has presentations to write, correspondence to do, teams to lead, needs to make time for strategy and vision, and so forth. And when they go to try to do more, be more productive in less time, what that usually means is you decide you're going to only spend one hour creating that presentation, and then that's it, you're not going to give yourself any more time to finish that presentation, right? Because that's the time that you've allotted yourself. Versus, well, I'm just gonna get started. And I'm going to see how long this takes and however long and then I'm going to take it home if I don't finish it, and you're going to give yourself all of his time, right. So that's what we're trying to eliminate for working moms. And so what happens though, is that hour is coming to an end, and they're thinking 'I'm not even close to being done here'. And now you're starting to panic a little bit, right? Because I told myself, I'm not going to give myself more time. I have to be done at the end of this hour. And there's an immense amount of fear to your point that comes up when they think, wow, this is it. Now, if I don't, of course, you could get yourself back online later and do it. But that's not the balanced life that you want. And so now there's a fear, maybe it's not gonna be good enough, I'm gonna have to 'wing' some of it, I'm gonna have to trust myself in a different way.
The opposite of fear is trust.
I had met a client and she had a presentation. And it was back in the early C0VID days, and she was working at home, and she thought it was an hour later than it was and then people logged in. And they were like, Hey, we're ready. And she's like, okay...and she's literally in that situation, I just have to present with what I have. And she said she did know everything that she needed to know. And she would have taken the full extra hour to prepare if she had it, but obviously didn't need it. And so, you know, the certain things we want to check, which is like is an hour enough time to do everything that you need to do? Not to do the perfect run-through five times, get all the details, research all the data points kind of thing. Remember, when you're presenting, for example, most people take 20% of what you are teaching anyway. What if you just committed to just giving the best 20% and just going in at that level. And the second thing is a willingness to trust yourself and be like, I actually know this stuff. And the slides don't have to be super pretty. And the third thing that I will say here is really - and this is going to be uncomfortable, but this is gold. This changed everything for me when I implemented it. I call it sitting in the consequence. And what I mean by that is, maybe you have an hour, and maybe you spend the first 20 minutes researching and getting in some research rabbit holes and you've not actually optimized the four hours. So at the end of it, your brain's like, well, we didn't really use that 20 minutes, we should find another 20 minutes - letting yourself do something like present and even mess up. Because I promise you, you're not going to get fired from one presentation. That's not A++, so letting yourself go through that experience teaches your brain, 'Oh, she was serious when she said one hour, she's not going to cover for us, she's not going to open the computer later, we're not going to work over the weekend'. And it means the next time when you sit down for that hour, you have taught your brain and motivated it to show up for the full hour. It's like what we spoke about, you have to let the mistake happen and learn from it. Instead of always covering. Imagine always covering for your kids? You just wouldn't do that, you want them to learn.
We have to re-train our brains out of survival mode.
Yeah, of course. And you know, the way that we're talking about it - I always have to remember that the listeners don't always think about the separation between our brain and us. We're talking about our brain as if it's some other entity like it's a child we have to teach because it really is! We have to teach our brain, we have to give it the experience of something for it to learn. And when you do that it gets on board with you so much faster. It begins to work on your behalf instead of in resistance. The brain, generally speaking, is very much about survival and keeping things nice and safe and keeping things nice and easy. That's its job because the easier and safer you are the longer you're gonna live, ultimately, right? The longer you're gonna survive. And so that's what it's always going to do. Unless you teach it otherwise. And in this case, to your point, like, the best way to teach it is to experience the consequences, to put your hand in the fire, and go wow, that hurts. Let's not do that again.
Yes. And I love that you made that differentiation for the listeners as well because to me, that was the most mind-blowing thing when I first came to this work was like, Oh, my brain, I am not my brain, because my brain is basically this pre-programmed computer based on survival and our evolution and our social conditioning. So I think that's a really important point for everyone to remember is, your brain can say, Oh, I'm going to go to sleep at 9 pm. And you can stay up till 10. And your brain can say, I'm going to stay up till 10. And you can fall asleep at 9, like your brain is a tool, just like your hands and I just think the idea that we separate those two out is so powerful in itself.
Yeah, for sure. And that it's trainable. The idea that whatever your brain offers to you, you can either take it or leave it like it's not true, just because it says anything. It isn't anything, it doesn't mean anything unless we ascribe meaning to it, ultimately. I'm thinking about my six-year-old today. She had a terrible morning, as we were headed out to school, she emoted for probably 45 minutes, she was telling me how she hated school, and she told me how she didn't want to do this talent show at school. And she was so nervous about it. Her brain was offering to her that life was terrible, and that there was no way to get out of it, and that all she had was to just wallow and be upset and angry, and it felt like she was digging herself into our hole. I watched not her, but I watched her brain do it to her. As she got fearful and she got angry, and she got frustrated. It's so interesting to be able to watch what's going on. And I could see it, and I could see that your brain is offering this to you and I know none of this is true, but it feels so true to us in the moment when our brain starts to offer it. So it is interesting, and it's so helpful to separate ourselves from our brain in order to see that it's a tool that we can use and wield on our own.
So you've offered us a couple of hacks here, I'd love to hear a couple of more. So, one was failure, and you said that was step three? What were some of the other ones?
It's not time management, it's mind management.
Well, the first step is really all about managing your brain, right? So what I teach is, it's not time management, it's mind management. And our brain is our number one time tool. And I say this, because what we spoke about earlier, so many things that used to take time, now don't take time. So for example, getting a promotion used to be a five-year rule. Now it's the person who goes in and speaks and explains the reasons why and asks for it. So the first is really about how we manage our mind and the stories that we believe what we think we are capable of. That's step one when you think you are capable of achieving more in less time, your brain is going to start solving it for you.
It's more about managing what you believe about yourself and what you believe is possible for you than having more time.
Yeah, I love that. Can I just pause on that for a second? Yes, that is so good that you mentioned getting a promotion. And I talk to a lot of women that are looking for balance in all sorts of ways. And usually, the first thing they do, is they say 'well, I have to pull back in my career, that's the only way that I can serve my family and be the mom that I want to be. And I can't actually have it all, because it's too hard.' And so that's their first solution. And sometimes that's legitimate like we actually go into the process of saying maybe you do want to just be home with your kids for a while. And that's a genuine desire and a dream. And that's great. But there's always this fear that if I do this, then this is going to take a lot of time, it's going to take forever for me to get back into the workforce, it's going to take forever for me to get back to where I am today. It's going to be this long, long, long process. And so ultimately though, what you're telling us is that if we think that it's going to take a long time, then that's what it's gonna do. Our brain is going to take as much time as we give it to actually get something done and get to the life that we want. And so when we're talking about creating balance, going after what it is we want, having the life that we want as working moms, it's more about managing what you believe about yourself and what you believe is possible for you and getting in tune with that. That's really what's going to shorten the time frame and get you there faster.
Making decisions and then implementing them.
Yes, exactly. So then the second step to time hacking comes in how we make decisions, and how quickly we implement those decisions. Because again, it can be very comfortable to sit in 'I don't know land'. I don't know whether I should apply for this job. I don't know if I can help out at this event for the kids. Then all the decisions, everything we do in our life starts with a decision first. And so when we are not deciding and then not implementing those decisions - I visually explain it to my clients, any indecision is like you're carrying around this backpack full of rocks, and you're like, I can't stop and put a rock out because that's going to slow me down. Instead of realizing that the weight of the rocks is slowing you down. It's like literally tiring your brain out with all the indecision it has to remember, I'll decide later. I decided, but I've not started all of that stuff. So the second step of time hacking is making quick decisions and implementing them FAST.
Which sometimes means you get it wrong, that's where the icky feelings come in, right? Sometimes that means, you don't get to the result that you desired when you were making this decision, which is why most people are immobilized by decisions because they might get it wrong, and it might not get to the desired result. So that's where we go back to what we were talking about in terms of all that sometimes stands in the way of us having all of the time back that we want and having the life that we want is just a willingness to feel something, a willingness to feel the fear or to feel the failure and to pick ourselves back up again, and move forward.
Yeah, and what's so interesting is giving yourself more time doesn't stop you from getting it wrong.
I love that. And more research does not make a better decision or a right decision almost ever. I remember this, I was a victim of being immobilized by decisions until probably about three years ago when I really started to work on it. And I remember, now, it's probably been 10 years or so when we needed to buy a car. And my car died in the middle of the commute. And my husband did all the research and presented to me two options. It was gonna be a Toyota Camry, or a Honda Accord, it was very, like, tried and true. And he had a sense we were going to get a used one and we wanted to get it from a rental car company. And so he had all of these things, and he did most of the research for me. And then we went to go test drive one. And it was like, it was right in the price range that he wanted. And it checked all the boxes. And he was like, I'm ready, I'm in and I'm like, Oh, we should really think about this. He's like, but no, we're here. And this car is good. And it's the right color. And it's the right price. It's exactly what we want. And I was like, I can't do it. I can't commit to anything right now. And so we drove away. And on the drive home, he was like, well, what would make you feel better about this, like what's going to help you to make this decision tonight? And I looked at him and in all honesty, I said, I think whatever we decide I'm going to feel terrible about it. If you really want to buy that car, we should just go back because it doesn't matter how much more research and how much more time I give it, I will never feel better about this decision and so I'm going to defer to you. But that experience really stood out to me because all of a sudden I realized how much time I give myself to make decisions. And at the end, I still never feel good about it. Now I do, now it's a completely different experience. But then that's what it was. And I saw the pattern. It was like this big experience where I saw this pattern. And so for sure, more time does not make the right decisions and never makes you necessarily feel better about your decisions. Ever.
Make decisions without fear of the outcome to learn and get smarter.
I think it gives you more time to be more confused. I'm the anti-pro and con-list person because all you are doing is creating ammunition to regret it later. And another thing I'll say about decisions which you touched on as well, is the way I see it is like the start line of a race. You're trying to map out the best route at the start, but you don't know the route yet. But once you start that first decision, even if it's not right, which it probably won't be, we're not telling you that fast decisions mean right decisions. But that start, that kickoff shows you more of the race, and then you learn and you get smarter and then you do it again and again. It's kind of like what I say to my clients is, you are the dumbest you'll ever be before you've made that first decision, make that first decision, take that step forward, you're gonna get smarter.
Yeah, more decisions give you more information, it gives you more data points, it helps you to make better decisions, and so forth. Fewer decisions or slow decisions make everything go slower. So yes, I love that. All right, so we've heard three hacks. These are beautiful. So what do you find the result of these things are as you really manage your mind, as you learn to fail, as you make quicker decisions. What is the end result for people?
One of my clients has got 10 hours back a week. And she's succeeding more, earning more, and spending more time with her family. And she's not even on every one of our live calls. She's just hanging out with her daughter and having more fun in life. Another client is achieving more than 50% of the time and is able to do her work and care for her parents and have her kids. And it's really just when you stop making time the focal point and giving it credit for when things go well, and it was just the right time or giving it responsibility when they don't and there's not enough of it. You just move faster with less friction and a lot more fun.
More working moms need more fun. There is no question. Yeah, it's like the first thing that goes out the window fun.
Stop thinking, time = results.
Yeah. And what's amazing for working moms, when you stop thinking time equals results - So when I used to work in corporate, I used to go to the gym at lunch. And I mean, you can see my hair, the listeners can't, but I've got thick, curly hair, so I could work out for 15 minutes max and it would be like, shower, sort my hair out and everything. And my colleagues would say, what's the point in going to the gym? You have to go for an hour before getting anything from it. And I'm like, but is that true though? Because I go for 15 minutes four days a week. And I feel great. And the alternative is to not go - which is what you guys are doing. One of the things I would challenge the working moms who are listening, to think about is, what if things don't take time? I have a video in time hackers called 30 second time hacks, where it's all about 30 seconds is the difference between changing your whole day around once we stop thinking time is required to feel calm, time is required to have fun, time is required to feel peaceful and relaxed. So any of these things, once we stop associating it, it's not just that we can achieve more work in less time, it's that we can start creating play and fun, a few minutes at a time and the results of that compound. So to expect anyone listening to take an hour out of every day this week and do something fun for yourself. It's just unrealistic, right? But you can get there if you want to get there by building out 30 seconds at a time. And guess what, even if you don't ever want to get there, once you stop thinking you need an hour to achieve anything, you are able to achieve more.
It’s all about having a different experience of time.
Yeah, I love the two pieces you just highlighted, which is really important for working moms to hear that it's not just about getting more things done. Right. So it's not just about getting through more of your to-do lists in your workday. It's about a completely different experience of time. It's about things being more fun. Even if you take the same task, and you don't feel the pressure of time on it you allow yourself to have more fun with the same task because there isn't pressure and so all of a sudden, everyday things in life, everyday tasks, your work becomes a completely different experience. Because you're not racing against the clock to get things done and so you're experiencing life, you're much more present in life, you're feeling much more control over life, so life and its normal tasks, feel more fun, feel more adventurous, you feel more creative, you're just tapping into the joy of life, even if you're not creating these other experiences that are 'fun', right? That you have fun. And then you have life, right? We're not trying to just do that though. We want to do some of that too. We want to have more vacations and we want to have more rest time. But we also want to change the entire experience, the entire paradigm of how we live our lives and how it feels to us.
Being present and noticing what surrounds you.
I'm so glad you picked up on that and shared it. Because it's the little things. I remember when I started to notice how green the trees were, it's such a simple thing but my brain used to be so distracted and consumed and I used to rush everywhere. And then I just started noticing how green the trees were. And now it's one of my favorite things to look at as I'm still walking from place A to place B, the whole experience of it has changed. And so I think it's so good for your listeners and your audience, in particular, to start thinking about it that way. Because sometimes we make fun of this to-do, that's heavy that we shouldn't be doing. And we should be having this whole exciting life as well as doing everything else that we're doing. And sometimes it is just like, what can you enjoy? And what you're already doing just by taking away the time pressure?
Yeah, for sure. By just not thinking that you don't have enough, right? And taking away the thought I don't have enough time. We've touched on so many good things here. Vikki, I know that you have something you wanted to share about a class or training that's coming up. Tell us all about that.
Yeah, I'm doing a time investment class. My background was in finance, so it's really combining my time hacking and financial investment background. And the simple premise is we are taught to think about time as an expense. So we spend it every day. And I teach people how to think about time as an asset. And an asset is something we can invest now to create more of in the future. And how most people do that is then doing more today to free up time.
Right, get more done. So you could take the vacation without your phone. Right?
Yeah, which is what happens because then you build a habit of getting more done exactly. So this is going to be how to invest time by doing less and achieving more. It's a three-day popup event.
I love this Vikki, thinking about time and helping people to experience time in a completely different way, and because of that can change the entire paradigm of their life, change their productivity, change it all. It's so good. The work you're doing is so important. Thanks for being here.
Yeah. Thanks so much for having me. Always fun to hang out.
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