Default Parent Resentment

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In this week's episode of the podcast, I dive into the topic of being the "default parent"—the one who primarily manages our child's basic needs and household duties. 


I explore the heavy mental and emotional load that comes with this role. Many working moms, including myself, often find ourselves as the default parent, not necessarily because of our partners, but due to our own choices and behaviors. 


I share insights on how stepping back and redistributing household responsibilities can lead to a more balanced and fulfilling life, both professionally and personally. Working moms, this is one you’ll definitely want to tune into.


Topics in this episode:

  • The concept of the "default parent" who primarily manages children's basic needs and household tasks.

  • The mental and emotional load carried by the default parent.

  • Reasons why working mothers often become the default parent beyond partner involvement.

  • Strategies for relinquishing control and redistributing responsibilities within the household.

  • The impact of these changes on achieving a balance between ambitious career goals and active parenting.


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Intro

Let's talk about being the default parent. That means you're the parent that has majority ownership over taking care of your kid's basic needs. 


Carrying the mental load.

Now, you're not just the coordinator, you're the owner, which means that you carry the mental load or the weight of thinking about everything that your kids need right now, all of the things that your household needs right now. 


So many ambitious working moms are the default parent for their household, but not for the reason that they think. 


In today's podcast, I want to share with you why you might be the default parent. I promise it has nothing to do with your partner or your spouse. 


And we'll talk about exactly what happens when you start to relinquish some of that control and ownership and exactly what you need to do to start actually letting go. 


You ready? Let's get to it. 


Welcome to the Ambitious and Balanced Working Moms Podcast, the place for women who want to balance their ambitious career goals with their life as a mom. If you're looking to feel more confident, decisive, and productive at both work and home, then this is the place for you. I'm your host, Rebecca Olson. Let's get to it. 


Good morning, working moms. At least it's morning right now as I write and record this podcast. I want to start out this episode by reading a couple of recent reviews that have come out about this podcast. Because I know that these women are not alone. 


And if you're listening right now, I want you to know that you also are a part of this ambitious and balanced working mom community. We are all striving towards the same goal on this podcast. 


And I know that listening to this podcast is probably such a huge part of you creating that life and meeting that goal. And so often, though, we feel like we're living life very alone, alone in our challenges, feeling like we're the only ones struggling as ambitious working parents. 


But even now, as you listen, I want you to imagine that there is another working mom out there that is listening right now at the same, same exact moment, and you are both working towards the same goals together. 


You are both working towards having a successful career and being a connected and loving parent in the way that you want to be. So, listen to a couple of these reviews, and then, I want you to think about what you would write in your own review if you were to review this podcast and how this podcast has had a positive effect on your life. 


And perhaps if you would maybe even consider posting it for others to read so others don't feel alone as well. But here, let me read out a couple that have recently come out. 


“I love this podcast. It's so relatable. I love listening to it as I drive to work. It helps me set my mind for the day, and it is a reminder that I need to be able to maintain my boundaries and be kinder to myself.”


So good. I love it. 


“Life changing - this podcast has had such an incredible impact on my life. I've been on the most challenging project for the last year and a half and have had the most miserable life. And my final breaking point was when I cried during a meeting, which I have never done over my 20 years of working. 


And I started listening to this podcast and was blown away by how much I could relate to all of the examples and the underlying reasons of certain behavior. So, so many of the episodes I've listened to are about changing your mindset and not feeling like you have to quit your job in order to have balance and more satisfaction. 


I've been listening to it daily and it has been transformative to my sense of well being. I am more present at home. I have so much more time to spend with my family because I'm not working at nights anymore. I am incredibly grateful.”


Ah, so good. I love that one. 


“I really love this podcast and recommend it often. I've tried a few other podcasts on parenting and raising children which have left me feeling a bit like there was some ideal I was trying to live up to. 


But this podcast is just so relatable and tangible in its recommendations that I feel so much more confident in my life and in control of how I think about what I'm doing. I have found every episode I've listened to worth my while.”


I love it. Thank you so much for sharing your experience on this podcast and being a working mom in this community. 


I hope that you listen to those reviews and relate to them and know that you are not alone as you listen to this podcast, as you go after big, ambitious things in your life, you are worth it. I'm so glad that you're here in this community.


And if you would, please think about what you would write in this review so that other people can see it and feel like they can relate to you as well and your experiences and what you've gained from this podcast and this particular resource, I would truly appreciate your time and effort put into that, as would so many others in this working mom community. 


All right, so let's dive into our topic for today. Default parent resentment. That's what we're going to talk about today. 


I sort of made up that term, but it makes sense, right. Default parent resentment is essentially the resentment that you feel for being the default parent. Right. 


Not all of my clients would say that they're the default parent, but a majority of them would identify themselves in that way. 


The default parent is the parent that has the majority ownership over coordination of the kids. Right. And there's really two parts of that coordination. They're sort of the basic needs, like getting your teeth brushed and getting to the dentist and making sure that they have some kind of summer camp to go to over the summer. 


And then there's the second part of it, which is like, parenting, parenting decisions and, like, raising your kids and how you want to raise your kids. Right. 


The heart of being a default parent.

And so I use this word ownership really strategically because I think that's at the heart of what being a default parent is all about. Right. It's not that your partner doesn't do things, because likely they do. They help over some things. It's about taking ownership over those things so you don't essentially have to tell them what to do at any given time so that they'll be helpful. Right. Because they already own it, so they just do it. You don't have to hold on to that in your mind. 


The invisible load.

There's another term that's often used to describe this, and it's called the invisible load. Right. The invisible load is sort of referred to as the mental load that someone carries that often goes unseen. 


So again, it's not just about being the person that makes all of the appointments, that literally takes the time to make the appointments or pick up the kids and cart them around or do whatever. 


It's about being the person that has to remember to do all of things, which is why it's called invisible. Right. Because it's happening in your mind. We can't see the things that you're having to remember and hold onto in your mind. 


So if you are the default parent, then you are holding in your mind or carrying the burden of coordinating and thinking about everything related to the kids. That's essentially what that means. 


Now, if you follow me on social media or on my YouTube channel, I recently put out a short video clip on my personal invisible load where I literally read out loud the list of things that I am carrying on behalf of our family. 


Like, it's a list of things that need to get done, decisions that need to get made on behalf of the kids in the household. And there's no question that in my family, 


I am the default parent but I don't hold resentment about that, as I know a lot of women do. 


And I want to talk a bit about that here on the podcast, because being the default parent and holding resentment because you're the default parent has more to do with you than it does with your partner. 


So let me say that one more time, because I really want you to listen. And if you zoned out, zone back in right now…


Being the default parent has less to do with your partner, and it has everything to do with you. 


Now, that doesn't mean that your partner can't make it easier on you, but that requires your partner to likely change something or do something differently than they're doing now, and that's 100% possible that they'll do that. And of course it would make things easier, but you ultimately don't have control over whether your partner chooses to make changes or take on things or not. Right. 


If they choose to engage in any of the things that are going on with the kids and take ownership over those things or not. And in a moment, we're going to talk about having a conversation with your partner on this, where you are engaging very strategically in what you're asking for help in and what you want support in and what you want to kind of release and kind of relinquish ownership over. 


Changing the way we think.

But we're going to be focusing on you and you changing the way you're thinking and what you're doing, because that's the only thing you ever have control over. Right. 


One of the reasons why I don't feel resentment towards my husband for being the default parent is because I actually choose it. 


I remember when my daughter was born and my husband worked, like, less than ten minutes away from her, and I worked over a bridge an hour away through a bunch of traffic and so forth. 


And so if she ever got sick or needed to get picked up, my husband would have to do that, because I was so far away, and I hated that. I wanted to be the one that picked her up, and I wanted to be the one that called the doctor if she had a high fever. I wanted to be the one that cuddled her and, like, helped her if she was feeling sick or hurt or whatever. And it just hurt my heart so much that I couldn't be that parent. 


Well, some of those emotions have changed for me over the years. I don't feel quite as strongly as needing to be the one that is there for my kid when they're sick. It's still something that, generally speaking, is a part of the kind of motherhood experience that I want. I want to be at their doctor's appointments and at their dentist appointments, and I want to meet with their teachers, and I want to communicate with their schools. That's the level of involvement I want as a mom. 


And now it just so happens my partner also wants some level of involvement in some of those things, but he doesn't feel as strongly about them as I do. So he opts into some and he doesn't to others. 


And I'm okay with that because I'm doing what I want as a mom, and I'm creating or, like, curating the motherhood experience that I want. 


And ultimately, it was one of the reasons why seven years ago, I started a coaching business, because I wanted a more flexible life for myself to be able to create the motherhood experience that I wanted. 


But lately, it's been too much for me. And that's what this video was about that I posted on social media and on YouTube, where I read my, entire, like, invisible load list. 


Writing a list of my invisible load.

One of the reasons I wrote that list and I did that video is because I needed to get out of my head all of these things that were, like, swirling around in there. 


Because we've recently, as, like a family, we've entered a new season where we just recently bought a house, and there's all these house projects that just. We've never had so many kind of home house projects before, ever in our marriage and in our life. 


And so now that we have all of these things, I found that I started carrying a lot of the household projects, as well as the kids, with me all of the time. And it was becoming very overwhelming and exhausting for me. 


So I wrote that list down, and, I shared it with the world. But most important is I shared it with my husband because he had no idea that I was thinking about all of these things, and I was carrying so many decisions that needed to be made and kind of the weight of those decisions for the family. 


He didn't know, I had to tell him, right? He's not a mind reader. So I actually had to share with him what was going on in my mind. 


And, because I shared it, it led to an open conversation around things that I really didn't want to do or I didn't really want to carry or have ownership over anymore. And I literally wanted to transfer that ownership out of my mind and into his mind. Right. 


So he would take over the research or the decision making, or think about the timing of it or how it was going to fit into our budget, everything that was related to it. I literally wanted to take ownership out of me and put it in him. And that was the way we would talk about it. 


Relinquishing ownership.

I said, I'm relinquishing ownership. Like, it's all on you if this happens or it doesn't happen. Right. That was the way we actually ended up having this conversation. 


Now, being the husband that he is, he actually initiated the conversation after I sent him this list. And I just kind of want to give him a little shout out here, a little love to my husband, because he is an amazing human being and an amazing partner. I can't imagine being married to anyone else. 


But he took my list, and without telling me, he put it all into an excel spreadsheet. And he marked off what he was going to do or what he thought would be the best things for him to, like, take ownership over. 


And essentially, he just went through this list and said, well, I'll take this, and I'll take this, and I'll take this, and so forth. And some of them had question marks, like, he wanted to talk about him, but it was so special and so loving, for him to be able to respond in that. 


And I just wonder how many of our husbands or spouses or partners out there, if they knew what was going on in your head, would gladly take some of those things off of your list, right? Would gladly take some of the ownership. 


Marriage is a team sport, right? And sometimes you gotta tag your partner in to get into the ring, and you go sit on the bench for a while. And I find that our husbands aren't ready to jump off of the bench and get in the ring. It's that the women aren't willing to sit out. 


Now, I know that I am generally speaking, very generally here, right? I'm universally, talking about this, and this doesn't apply to absolutely everyone, but I have spoken with thousands of working moms over the last seven years, and I have taught and spoken in front of thousands of women. And I know one of the qualities of being an ambitious person is that you don't want to get benched. Right. 


Ambitious women can find it hard to delegate.

You have a really high capacity to do a lot of things and to do a lot of things well. And it's very difficult to relinquish that control and sit down. But that ambition has an unhealthy side. 


And then, that unhealthy side makes it really difficult to let go of control and to let go of ownership and to delegate, not just with your partner, but at work, too. 


So most of the time, people want to help, and they're willing to help, and they want to be given the opportunity to help. And I have no doubt that your partner, at least on some level, wants to do that, too, but it takes you speaking up and letting go. 


Now, even if my husband had not initiated that conversation and created a spreadsheet and broken this all down, I would have initiated a conversation, probably not right then and there, because I literally had texted him this list where he had to, like, scroll through my text. 


He said, I just kept scrolling, and there I kept scrolling, and there was just more and more and more. So I wouldn't have initiated it right there, but maybe later in the evening or within a next couple of days, I would have initiated this conversation about the things that I wanted to keep on the list and the things that I wanted to maintain ownership over and the things that I really wanted to let go of. 


How our partners respond.

So let's talk for the remainder of this podcast around the response that your partner spouse could have to this. Right. There's really only three things, three ways, essentially, that they can respond. 


They can either say, well, I don't want to do those things either. That's one response. So neither one of you want to take over the things that you don't want to do. 


They could have the response, I will take some of these things on, and then they will, like, go out and actually do it. And they likely won't do it in exactly the way you want to, which is part of the problem. But we'll get back to that. 


But they will execute on it, or they'll say, oh, I'll take those things on, and they'll have every intention of doing it, but then they won't actually execute on it. Okay, that's really the only three options that are out there. 


Now, let's talk about each one of these. The first one, right, where neither one of you really want to do the thing. This is where you need to put financial resources to those tasks, right? 


Delegate tasks outside the family.

Delegate them out outside of your family, hire somebody else to do it, whether that's a handyman or a nanny or a meal service or a household organizer of some kind. Those are getting really popular these days. But spending your resources on the things that neither one of you want to do, that's the best use of your money. 


Okay, now, that's the first option that can happen. And now let's talk about the second option here, where your partner agrees to take on some of these things, and they actually have the ability to execute on it. Right. They're willing, and they tend to follow through. That's amazing. Right? 


Let go of all expectations.

In this case, it's your job to let go of all of the expectations on how they're going to get it done. Right. You are two very different human beings, and you're going to approach it in two very different ways. As long as it gets done, that's all that matters. Now, I know that is much harder said than done, and I want to give you one of the best examples I can think of right now. 


I remember when my husband and I had a much bigger conversation around, ownership and how I wanted to transfer more ownership to him, and he wanted to actually take on more. Okay. 


So we had this kind of broader conversation that within our marriage, this is how we wanted things to go. This was a couple of years ago, and one of the very first tasks that he took ownership over was the Christmas cards. 


So I had kind of ownership over, like, gifts for the kids for Christmas and things like that. He took over ownership of over the Christmas cards and getting them out. I didn't do a thing. 


So that was everything from gathering addresses to addressing them to creating to sending all the things. Right. And I remember this one day, I was leaving on, like, a Christmas excursion for the day with my daughter and my mom. It was sort of like an annual thing that we still do, actually, to this day. 


And my husband was like, hey, today I'm going to get that Christmas card done. And I'm like, great. Love it. Let's get those things out. It's getting late. I thought I would come back. He would have created it. We would talk about it, kind of review it, tweak it, and then send it off to the printer, and he would, you know, finish the task and so forth. 


But when I got home, not only had he created the Christmas card, but he had actually already sent it off to the printer, and it was ready for pickup. It was like a 1 hour printing deal, and he'd already done. He'd done all of it, right? 


And I remember I looked at him with this panic. My heart started racing, like, a million times a minute. I'm like, oh, my gosh. What does this Christmas card look like? I can't even believe that. Like, I don't get approval over the Christmas card, right? 


Notice how if he needs my approval, then he doesn't actually take ownership over it, right? There's some shared ownership, or it's really my ownership. Okay. 


But that's what I was thinking, and I was like, what did he say, what? What is this card all about? So, this was a couple of years ago, and I don't remember exactly what I said to him, but I was livid. 


And he pulled out the Christmas card and let me take a look at it. And it was a picture. There was four pictures on it. One of each of the family, and the kids were laying down, and it was a picture of them, and they each had cucumbers over their eyes. I remember it was like a little, cute little spa day that a friend had hosted. And so they had these. It was a picture of each of their heads with cucumbers over their eyes. 


And then my husband and I, earlier that year, had gone on, like, a spa weekend, and we'd each done a mud bath. And so it was a picture of us in the mud bath with, like, towels over our heads or something like that, or a towel across my face. I don't remember something along those lines. 


It was not the Christmas card that I would have ever chosen or the pictures that I would ever want. And the caption was, we sleighed 2021, which is very funny. It's very clever. It's exactly what I would expect out of my husband and his humor. 


And 2021 was a terrible year for, you know, for so many people because of COVID Like, it was very funny, and it was not what I would have done if I would have taken ownership over the Christmas card. 


Letting go of the big emotions that rise.

And so I had, all of these big feelings that came up because he had done all of this, and because he's different than me, and he chose to do things differently than I did. And it was my job to, like, let all those feelings come up and then to let them go. 


And when we talk about letting go, that's really what we're talking about letting go of. It's letting go of the big feelings that are bound to surface when a different human being does something different than you. 


Here's the thing though, there's a lot of big feelings that come up if you continue to take ownership over absolutely everything, right? 


You're feeling big feelings now, if that's where you're at. You're feeling overwhelmed, you're feeling exhaustion, you're feeling stressed, you're feeling resentment, all because you're the default parent that has ownership over everything, right? Those are big feelings, too. 


Big feelings can come when we transfer ownership.

There are also big feelings when you transfer ownership to someone else, that's going to do things differently than you, right? That's when you're going to feel, perhaps a little anxiety. 


For me, I felt some lividness in there. I felt very angry. I felt a little bit. I felt, anxious about how people were going to respond. There was some big emotions there as well. 


There are big feelings when you transfer ownership to someone else that's going to do things differently than you. Right? 


Just like I was feeling those big feelings when I saw how he executed upon the Christmas card. But only one set of those big emotions is actually paving a path to balance. 


I talk about this a lot with my clients, because going after an ambitious and balanced life, there's two goals. There is the goal to remain ambitious and successful in your career. And simultaneously, there is the goal to feel balanced and calm and in control. 


And if you want both of those things, likely you're going to have to change some things and do it differently than what you're doing today. 


  • You're going to have to relinquish control. 

  • You're going to have to say no. 

  • You're going to have to let your house be messy. 

  • You're going to have to be okay with only being 75% prepared most of the time.

  • You're going to have to change some habits and behaviors. 


It's going to be hard, and there's going to be a lot of big feelings in the process of you doing that. 


Feelings of potential failure, feelings of inadequacy, feelings of being not enough, 100% those emotions are going to come up. 


Those are the ones that come up with my clients all of the time. It's the territory if you're going to change things. 


But what I like to remind my clients of is that doing it all and saying yes to absolutely everything and, not having any boundaries and not really controlling your time, those things come with pretty big feelings, too. Right? 


And learning how to name and process and let go of your emotions is one of the key things that we do in coaching to help you maintain control. 


Because a big feeling is usually the only thing that ever gets in the way of you following through with your new habits and new behaviors and letting go. 


And in coaching, I teach you exactly what you need to do, like step by step in order to do that, because those big feelings are going to come up whether things remain the same or if you change them. But changing them is actually going to get you closer to the goal. Right. 


Okay, so we've talked about what to do if neither one of you want to take ownership over some of these things on your list. We've talked about what to do if your spouse says that they will take ownership, and then they execute in ways that are different than you. 


And now let's talk about the third option. Your partner, your spouse, your husband agrees to take on parts of the load, but they're terrible at execution of it. 


Likely. They have a habit of this, right? They're like, oh, yeah, I'll get to it. I'll get to it. And they have every good intention, like, you know, that their heart's in the right place, but it's just that they forget or they don't have great work ethic, or it doesn't become a priority for them, or other things get in the way, whatever it is, right? 


Giving then taking back ownership.

And as an ambitious woman, what happens is you just take it back. You're in a habit of taking it back. And this is where a lot of resentment builds up for women, right? 


Their partner, for whatever reason, doesn't follow through with the things that they say they're going to. And so now they feel stressed and they are carrying this invisible load, and they feel resentful for having a partner that doesn't share that load or doesn't seem to be capable of sharing it with them. 


So I'm going to tell you what you're going to need to do. It's not going to be easy. It's going to sound simple, but it's not going to be easy. Here it is. 


Let them fail.

You need to let your partner fail. And when they do, because whenever somebody is trying to do something that they've never done before, of course they're going to fail. Your job is to process all of those big feelings that come up when it happens. Right? 


Just like we were talking about before. Big feelings are going to happen when your partner fails. That's okay. It's your job to learn how to let them fail and then to process all of the feelings that come up with it. 


It's not easy to let people fail, whether we're talking about your spouse or someone on your team, right. Particularly when you know that you're very capable of doing it and you have a skill set to do it, to relinquish control to someone else, where inevitably they're not going to do it as well as you, particularly right out of the gate. Right. Essentially, they're going to fail. That's difficult. 


But this is the long game. This is where you are teaching other people how to do what you do. And the fastest way for them to learn is through trial and error. Let me give you, an example of this…


My husband has ownership over making sure my son is prepared for his baseball practice that happens on Mondays after school. That includes getting all of his gear together, everything he needs, and making sure he has all of it. He has total ownership over it, right? I have none of it. 


So today I saw him preparing some snacks in the kitchen before the kids went off to school and so forth. And I thought to myself, oh, my gosh, I've already gotten their snacks or in their backpacks. 


And so I'm like, hey, hey, I already prepared snacks. You don't need any of those. He was like, no, I need them for after school. Because every time I pick up the kids to go to baseball practice, they're hungry and they don't have any food.


And we're, like, six weeks in, and so he's now he's just figuring out what I need to do is I need to pack a snack for them so that they stop complaining. But it's taken him six weeks of the kids being grumpy and tired and saying that they're hungry for him to remember to pack a snack, along with packing all of the other gear. 


Now, if I just kept reminding him, if I had ownership over that, and I just kept reminding him, hey, don't forget the snack. Don't forget to pack the thing, and don't forget to pack the snack. Don't forget his baseball cap and everything he needs. his brain would, never actually take ownership over it. 


It would be depending on my brain to remind him, and so he would never learn. And so then all of a sudden, it would be partially my fault if he forgets the snacks and the kids are grumpy or if he forgets what the gear or whatever it is, and I don't want any of that. He has to take ownership over packing the bag, which now includes packing the snack. 


And it's just taken him some trial and error. That trial and error being actually the kids being just really upset and grumpy when he picks them up from school. In order for his brain to now remember, this is what I need to do, and I guarantee he'll never forget. 


Now, he will always pack a snack from here on out, because now his brain remembers and has taken full ownership over the snack, along with the bat and the glove and everything else that he needs to do. Right. 


Transferring ownership over the things that you mainly think about and that are on your mind, and then transferring them to your partner or somebody else in your team, it's going to require them to fail a bit. 


You're going to have to communicate expectations, get on the same timeline, and then let them figure it out.


If your partner has responsibility over making dinner tonight and they don't prepare anything and they don't think ahead and they get home and everybody's grumpy and it's like 5:30 and everyone's hungry and there's no food and there's nothing to make right. 


It's on them to choose what to do next because they're taking ownership over it. They're going to order out, are they going to doordash? Are they going to throw together a hot dog? Are you going to heat up some leftovers? That's on them. 


You get to walk away and let the natural consequence of a hungry belly and crying kids kind of help them get better at remembering when they take ownership over dinner next time. 


So often what I see is women relinquish control over something they notice that their spouse is not doing it or doing it in the way that they want and so they take it back. They never let their spouse get to the point of failure. 


They just remind them and remind them and remind them because they're taking ownership over it. And then they never let them experience the natural consequence of failing, whether that's their kids getting upset or the stress of having to scramble or go to the store to purchase something because they forgot whatever it is. 


Their brain never gets the lesson of learning through failure. So you need to let people fail and then deal with the emotions that come up when they do. 


Taking ownership of how we feel.

So much of going after an ambitious and imbalanced life is processing all of the emotions, taking ownership over the way you feel, not avoiding it, not worrying about it, not being afraid of it, but feeling it. 


When your partner fails, when you fail through trial and error, when you relinquish control, all of those feelings. That's what this is all about. It's one of the pillars that I teach in coaching. 


Confidence, clarity and control.

When we coach together, I walk you through what I like to call the three c's, confidence, clarity and control. I want you to be confident in who you are, clear on what you want, and I want you to control how you feel. That is an ambitious and balanced life, and it's what I help every single one of my clients achieve. 


Now remember, if you are the default parent and you're feeling resentment about that, it's less that your partner is not willing to step up or is not able to step up. It's more that you're not willing to tap out. 


But here's the thing. You will either tap out on your own terms by learning how to let go. 


By learning how to say no. 

By learning how to process your emotions. 

By learning how to rest and be unavailable. 


By hiring me as a coach and doing the uncomfortable thing of spending money on yourself. Or you will tap out because you burn out, in which case it's really not on your own terms. 


Burnout is optional, my friends. 

I can help you regain confidence, get clear on what you want to let go of, what's most important to you, and, learn how to go after it, no matter what feelings come up. 


I got you through the whole process. That's my job as your coach. The process takes six months. We meet three times a month, and the investment is $8,000. 


And that investment is not just in you learning how to get, out of burnout today. It's learning the lifelong tools that you never reach a point of burnout ever in your future. 


To book a time to speak with me further about coaching, you can go to www.rebeccaolsoncoaching.com/book. Of course, that will be in the show notes for you as well. 


Remember, go write that review of this podcast. I would love to hear the impact that this podcast has made on you. You are a part of this ambitious and balanced working moms community, and I love that this is one of your resources, and I would love to see how this podcast has impacted you in the past and going forward in the future. 


All right, working moms, let's get to it.

Rebecca Olson